Dear American Leftists,
Thanks for Supporting the Troops. Also for not supporting terrorists.
I also note the displays of support shown (by both Homegrown Leftists and the international wing of the movement) during and prior to General Petraeus's testimony in Congress.
We are a bit busy kicking al-Qaeda's ass. Or at least, converting their followers into local self-defense forces we can live with. Like in Ramadi, which most of you have completely forgotten about now that it's no longer in the news nightly. Of course, there's no way that could be because we're winning, right?
But I'm also noticing the polls showing the American people trust us more than they trust either you, or the politicos on the other side of the aisle.
This is not a healthy trend for America.
But it is far more unhealthy, and more immediately so, for the political party which has consistently opposed us and supported the enemy.
Don't get me wrong. We don't particularly _like_ Bush. Right-wingers misuse us plenty. Bush has screwed up lots.
That's what politicians do. They are human. And few of them ever were Soldiers, so they are idiots regarding military action.
But the Democratic Party has, since day one of this war, consistently sounded the drum for the enemy.
This country has survived one lost war. Lots of countries do not, at least with their constitution intact. Disgruntled veterans nursing stab-in-the-back syndromes are bad for democracies.
Think on it. The system can only take so much stress.
I also note the displays of support shown (by both Homegrown Leftists and the international wing of the movement) during and prior to General Petraeus's testimony in Congress.
We are a bit busy kicking al-Qaeda's ass. Or at least, converting their followers into local self-defense forces we can live with. Like in Ramadi, which most of you have completely forgotten about now that it's no longer in the news nightly. Of course, there's no way that could be because we're winning, right?
But I'm also noticing the polls showing the American people trust us more than they trust either you, or the politicos on the other side of the aisle.
This is not a healthy trend for America.
But it is far more unhealthy, and more immediately so, for the political party which has consistently opposed us and supported the enemy.
Don't get me wrong. We don't particularly _like_ Bush. Right-wingers misuse us plenty. Bush has screwed up lots.
That's what politicians do. They are human. And few of them ever were Soldiers, so they are idiots regarding military action.
But the Democratic Party has, since day one of this war, consistently sounded the drum for the enemy.
This country has survived one lost war. Lots of countries do not, at least with their constitution intact. Disgruntled veterans nursing stab-in-the-back syndromes are bad for democracies.
Think on it. The system can only take so much stress.
posted by Just A Decurion at 9/10/2007 07:15:00 PM
9 Comments:
You know listening to Petraeus you would think that we were in Iraq to fight AQ, no liberating a country from a evil dictator and imposing (er??) democracy.
The media hasn't really talked about it but I have no sense that sectarianism is lessening--or even that the factions are getting along internally.
I don't feel like we are building a country but an armed camp that will fly apart the second we stop sitting on the lid.
Yuripup, I'd be curious to know what data you were using as a basis for your conclusions, or if it's just "feelings". Given the continuous stream of propaganda we live in, feelings aren't likely to be a reliable indicator.
However, since your comment isn't relevant to the post, I'm not going to ask.
--laserlight
That is entirely the point...
I have heard--via NPR--that there are some signs of political reconciliation at the local level. Sometimes. And then you have situations like Basra where you have Shia on Shia violence.
Certainly we don't have political parties--as we would understand them--in Iraq. We have government representation of violent factions--who happen to be playing nice for now.
Do the various peoples we are trying to force together into a country even want to have a country together?
With the notable exception of Japan, has democracy ever been successfully imposed?
By the way Sgt, just on what basis are you assigning Adam Yahiye Gadahn to the left? He was homeschooled and converted to Islam.
Looking over what he was about he never made out of the angry teenager rebelling against everything stage before he fell in with radial Islam.
This is not a healthy trend for America.
It frankly scares the hell out of me.
On the basis of
"Bin Laden referred to 'the reeling of many of you under the burden of interest-related debts, insane taxes and real estate mortgage' and blamed 'global warming and its woes' on 'emissions of the factories the major corporations'."
9 paragraphs in.
As for the information regarding sectarian violence, look at the situation in Mosul and al-Anbar. Certainly there is, and will remain, some level of violence. That's pretty much a given with Middle Eastern politics. Only a strong-arm dictator who creates pyramids of skulls regularly can impose what an American thinks of as 'peace'.
Finally, I will remind you that Iraq is a battle in the 'war on terror' AKA The Long War. Killing al-Qaeda operatives and destroying the prestige and power of that organization is one of the main goals. I'll address this later in a post of its own.
"This country has survived one lost war. Lots of countries do not, at least with their constitution intact. Disgruntled veterans nursing stab-in-the-back syndromes are bad for democracies."
That might require some amplification?
Since I'm a disgruntled vet on his way to DC for a week to try to prevent the country from losing a second war I'd take gentle issue with the premise.
The examples you've cited don't really seem to apply so I suspect I've manage to miss your point.
Yep, the concept of a military coup or some such is frightening, but...
Eh. Bin Laden's railing about interest and mortgages to me sounded more like someone trying to convince a nation that has, for the last 50 years, lived in debt, that the islamic prohibition against charging interest or otherwise making money on financial services is in their interests.
Which, really, isn't going to play. People will bitch about the folks they owe money to, but they'll still sign up for the credit cards eagerly, and insist that the money they're spending w/those cards is 'their money'... even though it's not.
I'd also question your (and the freepers') immediate assumption that the defacement of the Vietnam memorial is someone with an active political agenda. Just because someone's an obnoxious drunken vandal looking to make his obnoxious drunken vandal friends laugh doesn't make them a leftist.
It makes them an asshole.
Maybe you don't deal w/any significant degree of vandalism where you're from, Sarge, but believe me, if there is an agenda behind it, that agenda's spelled out. If there's no blatantly displayed agenda, it's just some dick, bein' a dick, because he thinks it's funny.
If there's no blatantly displayed agenda, it's just some dick, bein' a dick, because he thinks it's funny.
Conservative vandalism usually consists of drunken white males in speeding pickup trucks firing shotguns at roadsigns, eventually creating the entire collected works of Shakespeare, but in Braille.
Liberal vandalism consists of dope-smoking urbanite anti-globalization collectivists deconstructing public monuments as a natural extension of the desire to deconstruct everything else.
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